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This is going to be a serious article about The Daily Stormer and much more important related issues. No, really! It is. Of course, any article about what is in fact just a troll site is going to have to struggle to be serious, but I have steeled my heart and girded my loins for that struggle.
First off, let’s deal with my previous article, as it managed to trick most people. It was—in case you hadn't realized—a deferential tribute to the actual style of The Daily Stormer. Imagine my surprise and trollish joy when not only the low-tier supporters of the Stormer, the famous troll army, but the Anglins and the chief Anglin himself reacted with the same kind of buttchappery that they try to inflict on their own targets.
As the Anglins constantly say in every article where they offer an explanation for their methodology:
But in case this sounds like criticism it is not. I am merely being descriptive here and I am not even condemning that style—I greatly enjoyed using it myself in my last article and it has its attractions. It certainly had the desired effect: to troll the trolls.
I believe that various styles of writing are allowable under different circumstances: horses for courses.
My reason for using this style was not to attack Anglin for personal reasons. Whatever 'Anglin' is—a single Stakhanovite semi-White working tirelessly in a misguided attempt to save the White race or a group of professional trolls paid by a gang of paranoid Jews—he/it has admirable qualities. If the first case is true, then he is clearly a force of nature (or will burn to a crisp within the next few weeks through overwork). If the second case is true, it would at least represent a group of people motivated by their own nationalist (or tribal) vision, using an effective troll site to discredit a competing group’s nationalism. Despite his appearance, I can even see how Anglin could even be all-White instead of a North American "Argentina is White" meme.
But on to why I decided to critique The Daily Stormer in its own style. My reasons were fourfold:
In the debate in the article comments thread, Stormer supporters constantly reminded me that the Stormer was "a great success" and that it gets "millions of hits," etc., etc. I was informed that it is much more popular than the rest of the Alt-Right put together, etc., etc. I would not quibble about any of this. My impression is that, yes, the Stormer is rather popular, even though, surprisingly, Anglin only has about 2,000 Twitter followers.
But whatever the actual degree of the Stormer’s popularity, an important distinction has to be made between popularity on the internet and effectiveness IRL (IRL is an often-used internet acronym for “In real life”). The question, then, is: How does the supposedly enormous online popularity of the Stormer translate into real world effectiveness?
I see zero evidence of this happening—a major red flag for me. One case I cited in my previous on-line squabble with the Stormer was their online cheerleading for Robert Ransdell’s Kentucky senate run, which, when the votes were counted, produced not even a ripple. To be brutally statistical Ransdell ended up with a grand total of 53 votes, probably all of which he would have gotten anyway (thanks Mum!). So much for the Stormer's populist pull!
Of course, you could beat this site with a similar shaped stick, as we haven't swung any elections yet or created any militias, but let’s keep this focused on the big issue of how White Nationalism in general, which has supposedly flourished on the internet, crosses the all-important barrier from on-line existence to IRL.
I think a good analogy for sites that are popular on the internet but have little real world impact are "porn sites." Luckily, Alternative Right does not have enough hits and donations to be called a "porn site." But any WN site that has millions of unique visitors and, presumably, tens of thousands of dollars in donations has an inescapable duty to break out of its internet ghetto and go IRL.
This is what I see TRS attempting – arranging meet-ups of like-minded people with their "Standard Pool Party" get-togethers and sending their top guys to various speaking events to network, even though they identify to a large degree as a troll organization. Counter-Currents does this too, with more emphasis on Mr. Johnson’s speaking tours, many of them to Europe, where important connections are forged. Then, of course, there are those parts of the Alt-Right attempting various conferences, street demonstrations, and campus infiltrations.
These are all small steps and nowhere near big enough to shake the world yet, but they are small IRL steps into real life, and light years ahead of anything that the Stormer is attempting.
A key concept to judge internet-based entities that proclaim an interest in the greater world is "organic logic." The internet can provide a place for the "seed" of such an entity to germinate and send out a few "viral" root stalks into the "dankness" of cyberspace, but once it grows beyond a certain size in terms of readership and donations it must somehow "break the surface" into real life.
This is its organic logic, by which it must be deemed worthy of itself or not. If it chooses to identify itself as a purely larpy organization, then it can be judged by a different and much lower standard. But if it proclaims an interest in wider reality, then online growth forces upon it a moral imperative to make the transition to the real world. If it does not, we can then conclude that it is a diseased or sinister entity, frozen in a state of perpetual infancy and neoteny, either by accident or design.
But taking tentative steps into the real world is just one way that internet nationalist sites can avoid the "mass masturbation" of being "porn sites" and actually try to spawn some IRL offspring. The other way is by generating morality, ideology, and insights that have utility for those already active IRL.
One of the weaknesses of The Daily Stormer is that it is defined very much by the American political experience. America, as has been pointed out before on our site, is a country with a comparatively large degree of freedom, but little actual democracy, the exact opposite of Europe.
While Europe lacks America’s relative freedom of expression, it has a greater degree of democracy, with the result that nationalism is in a much healthier condition there than it is in America, although far from what it needs to be to ensure the security of the European race. A healthy, intellectual, and morally rigorous Alt-Right is capable of creating narratives and ideas that can serve these IRL political trends. What The Daily Stormer does, by contrast, has zero or even extremely negative utility in this promising field of political action for our people.
Any European nationalist party that is achieving results has done so by turning its back on what can politely be termed "Nazi bullshit," even those parties like Golden Dawn that partly grew out of anti-leftist street gangs.
Across Europe, various street gangs and hooligans have a long tradition of totemically—not ideologically—using Nazi imagery, because it repels and frightens their opponents.
When elements from this world become more involved politically, there is a consistent trend of them ditching the Nazi paraphernalia, despite the occasional nostalgic twinge of regret. This is because it has an unvaryingly negative effect on nationalist politics, which is why the Leftist media works overtime to frame nationalism in this way. Those organizations that accept such Leftist framing wither and die, while those that find a way of rejecting it do rather well.
The only reason that many American White nationalists don’t realize this is because there is a near zero level of IRL in North American White Nationalist politics—Ransdell's result is typical. This makes North American WNs susceptible to the rather larpy Nazi NIRL ("Not in Real Life") White Nationalism of sites like The Daily Stormer, although The Daily Stormer is not the only one.
While evincing deceptive signs of vitality in the dank-o-sphere, the kind of White Nationalism you find at the Stormer is categorically unable to flourish IRL. It is a trollish mix of cheap shots, inflexible boilerplate narratives, blindly-followed conspiracy theories, and positions that have zero moral purchase in the real world (e.g. GTKRWN).
Exposed to sunlight, it disintegrates in a hissing cloud of green smoke. The function of this troll culture is to give its readers (often low-IQ and low status types) a cheap, emotional hit—a mental "wank"—and a sense of false power and security. In other words it is to drain them of their manly essence (that porn site analogy again!) and keep them on the farm or down in the basement.
Whatever the Stormer is or thinks it is—a moot and meaningless point to be honest—the truth is that in terms of functionality, it is a means of disempowering and containing its readers in the dank world of the internet—retarding their political emergence into the real world. Its "popularity" can be likened to the crowdedness of a concentration camp. It is effectively an electronic ghetto for people divided within themselves between their anonymous online selves and their timid IRL selves, and thus fatally weakened. It is a rail yard for cattle in the process of being removed from the real world, an Auschwitz of the Internet for White Nationalists.
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First off, let’s deal with my previous article, as it managed to trick most people. It was—in case you hadn't realized—a deferential tribute to the actual style of The Daily Stormer. Imagine my surprise and trollish joy when not only the low-tier supporters of the Stormer, the famous troll army, but the Anglins and the chief Anglin himself reacted with the same kind of buttchappery that they try to inflict on their own targets.
As the Anglins constantly say in every article where they offer an explanation for their methodology:
"In order to get people you need a popular, simple and emotional message."That is exactly the reason I upped the quota of what can best be called "cheap shots"—referring to Anglin’s appearance in a similar way to the way that the Stormer refers to "Kikes" and "Niggers," using outlandish graphics, and giving emotionally plausible supposition and deduction even more weight than fact. This kind of unaccountable and vituperative style is exactly what The Daily Stormer does on a daily basis.
I believe that various styles of writing are allowable under different circumstances: horses for courses.
My reason for using this style was not to attack Anglin for personal reasons. Whatever 'Anglin' is—a single Stakhanovite semi-White working tirelessly in a misguided attempt to save the White race or a group of professional trolls paid by a gang of paranoid Jews—he/it has admirable qualities. If the first case is true, then he is clearly a force of nature (or will burn to a crisp within the next few weeks through overwork). If the second case is true, it would at least represent a group of people motivated by their own nationalist (or tribal) vision, using an effective troll site to discredit a competing group’s nationalism. Despite his appearance, I can even see how Anglin could even be all-White instead of a North American "Argentina is White" meme.
But on to why I decided to critique The Daily Stormer in its own style. My reasons were fourfold:
- The simple enjoyment that a writer gets from playing with styles.
- To retaliate for what was clearly an attack on NPI and – less importantly – me. I was referred to in the article, although I did not even attend Richard Spencer’s gays-n-kikes-fest (sorry, enjoying that Stormer style too much!).
- To raise awareness of the style in question and how it plays to a certain type of mentality in what is not necessarily a healthy way.
- To provoke a wider debate about much more important issues related to this petty controversy.
In the debate in the article comments thread, Stormer supporters constantly reminded me that the Stormer was "a great success" and that it gets "millions of hits," etc., etc. I was informed that it is much more popular than the rest of the Alt-Right put together, etc., etc. I would not quibble about any of this. My impression is that, yes, the Stormer is rather popular, even though, surprisingly, Anglin only has about 2,000 Twitter followers.
But whatever the actual degree of the Stormer’s popularity, an important distinction has to be made between popularity on the internet and effectiveness IRL (IRL is an often-used internet acronym for “In real life”). The question, then, is: How does the supposedly enormous online popularity of the Stormer translate into real world effectiveness?
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Of course, you could beat this site with a similar shaped stick, as we haven't swung any elections yet or created any militias, but let’s keep this focused on the big issue of how White Nationalism in general, which has supposedly flourished on the internet, crosses the all-important barrier from on-line existence to IRL.
I think a good analogy for sites that are popular on the internet but have little real world impact are "porn sites." Luckily, Alternative Right does not have enough hits and donations to be called a "porn site." But any WN site that has millions of unique visitors and, presumably, tens of thousands of dollars in donations has an inescapable duty to break out of its internet ghetto and go IRL.
This is what I see TRS attempting – arranging meet-ups of like-minded people with their "Standard Pool Party" get-togethers and sending their top guys to various speaking events to network, even though they identify to a large degree as a troll organization. Counter-Currents does this too, with more emphasis on Mr. Johnson’s speaking tours, many of them to Europe, where important connections are forged. Then, of course, there are those parts of the Alt-Right attempting various conferences, street demonstrations, and campus infiltrations.
These are all small steps and nowhere near big enough to shake the world yet, but they are small IRL steps into real life, and light years ahead of anything that the Stormer is attempting.
This is its organic logic, by which it must be deemed worthy of itself or not. If it chooses to identify itself as a purely larpy organization, then it can be judged by a different and much lower standard. But if it proclaims an interest in wider reality, then online growth forces upon it a moral imperative to make the transition to the real world. If it does not, we can then conclude that it is a diseased or sinister entity, frozen in a state of perpetual infancy and neoteny, either by accident or design.
But taking tentative steps into the real world is just one way that internet nationalist sites can avoid the "mass masturbation" of being "porn sites" and actually try to spawn some IRL offspring. The other way is by generating morality, ideology, and insights that have utility for those already active IRL.
One of the weaknesses of The Daily Stormer is that it is defined very much by the American political experience. America, as has been pointed out before on our site, is a country with a comparatively large degree of freedom, but little actual democracy, the exact opposite of Europe.
While Europe lacks America’s relative freedom of expression, it has a greater degree of democracy, with the result that nationalism is in a much healthier condition there than it is in America, although far from what it needs to be to ensure the security of the European race. A healthy, intellectual, and morally rigorous Alt-Right is capable of creating narratives and ideas that can serve these IRL political trends. What The Daily Stormer does, by contrast, has zero or even extremely negative utility in this promising field of political action for our people.
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Across Europe, various street gangs and hooligans have a long tradition of totemically—not ideologically—using Nazi imagery, because it repels and frightens their opponents.
When elements from this world become more involved politically, there is a consistent trend of them ditching the Nazi paraphernalia, despite the occasional nostalgic twinge of regret. This is because it has an unvaryingly negative effect on nationalist politics, which is why the Leftist media works overtime to frame nationalism in this way. Those organizations that accept such Leftist framing wither and die, while those that find a way of rejecting it do rather well.
The only reason that many American White nationalists don’t realize this is because there is a near zero level of IRL in North American White Nationalist politics—Ransdell's result is typical. This makes North American WNs susceptible to the rather larpy Nazi NIRL ("Not in Real Life") White Nationalism of sites like The Daily Stormer, although The Daily Stormer is not the only one.
While evincing deceptive signs of vitality in the dank-o-sphere, the kind of White Nationalism you find at the Stormer is categorically unable to flourish IRL. It is a trollish mix of cheap shots, inflexible boilerplate narratives, blindly-followed conspiracy theories, and positions that have zero moral purchase in the real world (e.g. GTKRWN).
Exposed to sunlight, it disintegrates in a hissing cloud of green smoke. The function of this troll culture is to give its readers (often low-IQ and low status types) a cheap, emotional hit—a mental "wank"—and a sense of false power and security. In other words it is to drain them of their manly essence (that porn site analogy again!) and keep them on the farm or down in the basement.
Whatever the Stormer is or thinks it is—a moot and meaningless point to be honest—the truth is that in terms of functionality, it is a means of disempowering and containing its readers in the dank world of the internet—retarding their political emergence into the real world. Its "popularity" can be likened to the crowdedness of a concentration camp. It is effectively an electronic ghetto for people divided within themselves between their anonymous online selves and their timid IRL selves, and thus fatally weakened. It is a rail yard for cattle in the process of being removed from the real world, an Auschwitz of the Internet for White Nationalists.
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Andrew Anglin's Inverted Ghetto
Stormer in a Teacup
"Go Straight to Nazi; Do Not Pass Go..."
Joining the Dots on Andrew Anglin
A Surfeit of Brackets' (((Daily Stormerism))) and (((Hollywood Naziism))) vs. The Alt-Right
It's Not About Who's in the Movement, It's About Who's Not in the Movement Yet
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ReplyDeleteFor what?
DeleteAny people or institutions that are pro-white in any way are attacked immediately in the press to be Nazis. The communist press, media, and democrat party cannot have white people uniting anywhere. The blacks and the media have decided that this cannot be and must be squashed before it gets going good. The media is yelling 'Nazi' and 'racists' and blacks are threatening to burn down white neighborhoods if we do not "stop". If you do not believe that check twitter. By 'stop' they mean stop taking up for yourselves. I have never scene the media so distraught since Donald won the presidency. No one is going to make us stop. We demand our rights. This whole nation is not just for everyone but us. Contrary to what some say it is we whites who built this nation and fought and died for it. You do not scare us.
ReplyDeleteTo make progress as a White man, try NOT to confirm negative stereotypes as much as possible.
DeleteTo make progress as an ADL shill, try to confirm negative stereotypes as much as possible.
Whites and blacks built this nation.
DeleteI think all of you racist and Nazi should get a DNA test. You will be surprised where you come from.
ReplyDeleteI think you Leftist one worlders should go and live if Africa. C'mon it can't be that bad as we all bleed red.
DeleteThe thing about The Daily Stormer is, the hyperbole is funny. There's not a lot of that to be found elsewhere.
ReplyDeleteAll this iconoclasm is crazy.
ReplyDeleteNow, one can make an argument that, in the past, white themes were favored over black themes in the South. True enough. Then, the thing is to erect monuments that pay honor to black narrative and black themes and black heroes. That way, we have several layers of history.
This is done in the American West. Now, what the Indians suffered was worse than what blacks got. Blacks got slavery, Indians got ‘genocide’. (Also, black Africans never lost their homeland –
Subsaharan Africa — and, if anything, they are now colonizing & destroying Europe, whereas natives of Americas lost control of their homelands forever to not only whites but to the world as Diversity calls for immigration-invasion of Americas from all corners of the world.) Emma Lazarus never opposed Manifest Destiny. She didn’t care about Indians being reduced to huddled wretched refuse dying of disease, hunger, and living on government bacon. She just used her poem as moral cover for more whites and Jews to come and take remaining territory of the Red Savages. Such has been called ‘genocide’.
So, how was this memory dealt with? It wasn’t by tearing down monuments and memorials to white pioneers, frontiersman, cowboys, marshals, and other such noteworthy figures. It was by erecting Indian monuments in memory of Indian narrative and tragedy and heroes. That way, we can have both narratives.
(Also, if we wanna morally nitpick, we can condemn and call for removal of Vietnam War and Korean War memorials too. In Vietnam, US committed many atrocities as did the commies. US divided the nation and spread agent orange and made a mess of that place. As for Korean War, it never would have happened if US hadn’t divided the nation and given half to Stalin. And US bombing was near-genocidal in the North. Based on those crimes, some may call for removing those memorials. But that’d be stupid. War memorials are what they are and should be accepted as such.They can never tell the whole story.)
Maybe part of the reason why Jewish Supremacists are so eager to tear down Southern monuments and ban the Southern flag isn’t just about suppressing white identity. Maybe it’s because GOP is very pro-Israel(as many Progs are beginning to become more anti-Israel). As GOP is strongest in the South, it has become defacto the Southern neo-Confederate Party even though it began as Party of Lincoln and Emancipation.
This makes it difficult for Neocons and Zionists to use GOP to support Israel. Enemies of Israel will say Israel is supported by GOP that is associated with slavery symbols. That would tarnish Neocons as Neoconfederates. Especially given that Israel was created by Andrew-Jackson-like ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and given that it now uses apartheid against Palestinians in West Bank, Zionists want to avoid association with Southern Symbols.
So, paradoxically, in order for Zionists to give moral cover to Jewish supremacism in Israel and apartheid against Palestinians in West Bank, it has to purge the GOP of all associations to ‘supremacist’ symbols.
US is a Jewish Culture of Hate where all Americans are expected and required to hate whomever and whatever is hated by Jewish Globalist Supremacists.
ReplyDeleteWhy do Jewish Supremacists hate Alt Right? Because Alt Right won’t join in on this culture of hate.
Alt Right refuses to hate Russia for defending itself from Jewish globalist financial rapists.
Alt Right refuses to hate Iran, a nation that hasn’t invaded anyone and hasn’t a single nuke.
Alt Right refuses to hate Syria, a secular-modern nation before Zionist-controlled US pushed ‘color revolution’ into it to spread mayhem and chaos. US and its allies violated Syrian borders and sent terrorist killers to rape, loot, and destroy ancient treasures. CIA aided Jihadi lunatics.
Alt Right refuses to hate Palestinians, a people who’ve long been treated like white patriots are treated in US and EU.
Alt Right refuses to hate Venezuela. Let Venezuela embark on its own course, whether left or right. Not our business.
Alt Right refuses to hate Hungary for wanting to maintain Hungary as a Hungarian civilization of people and culture.
Alt Right refuses to hate Poland for insisting that Poland remain Polish in ethnos, territory, and memory.
Alt Right refuses to join in the Jewish Supremacist culture of hate. It is for white identity and interests independent of the Jewish Globalist Mafia boss. So, the Big Hater accuses Alt Right of hate. And guess who owns most of the media and academia and most whore politicians?
Alt Right howls like a wolf independent of the master narrative.
The wolf-hunt is on. Jewish masters and their packs of dogs are setting on Alt Right wolves. But always remember… the howl of a lone wolf can be heard over far greater distances than the barkings of a 1000 dogs. Wolf howl is nobler for it is free and independent.
Nailed it.
DeleteMost people bark like dogs. Or they only parrot.
ReplyDeleteMost white people are like that. They bark loud but it’s only doggy bark.
Alt Right howls like a wolf independent of the master narrative.
That’s why the GLOB hates it.
If Trump failed, it is he has failed to speak out against Antifa and Glob violence throughout 2016 when his supporters were getting attacked with media endorsement.
He failed again.
Also, it’s rich that Podherotz would compare Alt Right with ISIS.
It’s Jewish-controlled US that has been using CIA to aid Alqaeda directly and ISIS indirectly to undermine Assad’s secular governmnt. It was Russias and Alt Right that stood with Assad against the crazies… while Israel treated ISIS soldiers.
It is NYT turd Thomas Friedman who has a hardon for ISIS.
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2017/04/15/thomas-friedmans-perverse-love-affair-isis
And neo-nazis? Who aided the neo-nazis in Ukraine to topple a democratically elected government?
Alt Right mostly stood with Russia on the Ukrainian matter. It opposed Zionist-US-CIA collusion with neo-nazis over there.
And who is attacking BDS and free speech? It aint Alt Right but all 50 governors of the US and Congress bought and sold by AIPAC.
Spencer did a great thing. He prodded the Beast and exposed its workings of media mendacity, mob violence, anti-white virulence, Jewish supremacism, political machinations.
Now, white folks know what the Palestinians had to deal with forever.
Only the ACLU showed any commitment to principles this time around.
Btw, where is Podherotz on the fact that so many US politicians are bought and sold by crazy Sheldon ‘nuke Iran’ Adelson?
Talk about extremist hate.
Alt Right actually praised Obama’s peace deal with Iran. Alt Right wants sovereignty for all peoples.
A friend said to me after 9/11 "We're all Palestinian now!"
DeleteMaybe you should have waited 24 hours before freaking out and republishing this? Trump has made you look a fool. Also stop hanging around with David Cole and compering us Scots to Jews, it's embarrassing. Did Anglin reply to you the first time?
ReplyDeleteMy anti-Stormer stance is more valid than ever. Trump's statement, while welcome, doesn't change the fact that sieg-heiling effectively ghettoizes the movement and makes it easy to deplatform nationalist sites and dox ANY White person espousing White identity. You should be commending my foresight in realizing all these problems years in advance.
DeleteYes, Stormer is a hilarious, addictive porn site. But I feel better off it for just 48 hours. Detoxing, I guess.
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