The words "Richard Spencer" and "implicit" go together like peanut butter and jelly, so there really should be no problem with looking round the hard edges of what Spencer says, to the imputation and inference of his words, especially when it fits so well to the condition of the Alt-Right.
Recently Spencer was on my favourite YouTube channel "The Public Space" with Nick Fuentes and the host Jean-Francois Gariépy. Inevitably Spencer started to bash Conservatives and Constitutionalists, which is fine by me, but the funny thing was that, with very few changes, his criticisms fitted his own version of the Alt-Right like a latex glove.
Here is the relevant passage which you can also find in this timestamped link:
In the same way that America can't escape its cursed legacy, so the Spencerian Alt-Right may be incapable of escaping its essential Richardness—a semi-autistic tendency to juvenile shock tactics, crude moral decontextualisation, a "notice me senpai" attitude to the MSM, and a blindness to the subtleties of strategy, stemming from a Fuhrer principle pivoted on the squishy ground of a man fated to live his life on the antisocial economic basis of a trust fund.
Yes, if the video can't be rewound with a different ending, as Spencer clearly agrees, then it is explicitly clear that we need something new, something bigger, better, stronger, and smarter to contain and channel the positive forces that built the Alt-Right, that he then led up an ally and painted into a corner.
Recently Spencer was on my favourite YouTube channel "The Public Space" with Nick Fuentes and the host Jean-Francois Gariépy. Inevitably Spencer started to bash Conservatives and Constitutionalists, which is fine by me, but the funny thing was that, with very few changes, his criticisms fitted his own version of the Alt-Right like a latex glove.
Here is the relevant passage which you can also find in this timestamped link:
"["Make America Great Again"] was an inherently retroactive statement. It was not towards the future. It was about returning to a period of time, and I would say this, I don't think we can ever really return to periods of time. If we could simply rewind the video, it is simply going to end up at the same place we are today. If we could rewind back to 1950, 1950 set the groundwork for where we are today. We have to acknowledge that there are inherent problems to the American project that led us to where we are, and that doesn't mean there were not great things about it—I would never argue anything to the contrary...It is clear that we have to have something new."Spencer is clearly not interested in fixing things, and I'm not saying he is wrong there, but the funny thing is that what he says fits the Alt-Right better than it fits America. Let's try that:
"["Make the Alt-Right Great Again"] is an inherently retroactive statement. It is not towards the future. It is about returning to a period of time, and I would say this, I don't think we can ever really return to periods of time. If we could simply rewind the video, it is simply going to end up at the same place we are today. If we could rewind back to before Heilgate, Heilgate set the groundwork for where we are today. We have to acknowledge that there are inherent problems to the Alt-Right project that led us to where we are, and that doesn't mean there were not great things about it—I would never argue anything to the contrary...It is clear that we have to have something new."I don't think I am stretching things or shoe-horning them in here. In fact, making the switch between MAGA and the Alt-Right was pretty effortless, and clicked right away.
In the same way that America can't escape its cursed legacy, so the Spencerian Alt-Right may be incapable of escaping its essential Richardness—a semi-autistic tendency to juvenile shock tactics, crude moral decontextualisation, a "notice me senpai" attitude to the MSM, and a blindness to the subtleties of strategy, stemming from a Fuhrer principle pivoted on the squishy ground of a man fated to live his life on the antisocial economic basis of a trust fund.
Yes, if the video can't be rewound with a different ending, as Spencer clearly agrees, then it is explicitly clear that we need something new, something bigger, better, stronger, and smarter to contain and channel the positive forces that built the Alt-Right, that he then led up an ally and painted into a corner.
Nobody is stopping all the clever Spencer-critics from starting the really successful White movement : so... !?
ReplyDeleteMy attitude towards Spencer: gratitude. He goes out there and sticks his neck out FOR ME. For me as a WHITE: NO-effing-body else does that. Get that !!?
So quit the clevertalk and stick your neck out for ME as a WHITE or STFU !
good point...spencer is fighting for us...good for him...
Deleteyeah, spencer is definitely trying to pivot...he is being a bit elusive, so I am not sure what he means exactly...
all we can do is keep generating propaganda and getting it into the minds of other americans...
Actually, spencer seems to be pivoting towards monarchy and even saying that whites have a duty to do whatever they can for nonwhites/blacks...not a stance i favor...i favor a breakup of the USA and decentralization where most power is based on small governments...
Delete@Peter: True, nobody's stopping others from starting a "really successful white movement" but that begs the question: WHY must others do all the hard work to create it...but not YOU???
ReplyDeleteSpencer sticks his neck out? Well, so did Kevin Alfred Strom and Don Black and David Duke and Matt Heimbach and they're all FAILURES! Not only that, they're all EX-CONS! Losers! Now all they do is ask for gibs-me-dat. Which is exactly what Richard "Richie Rich" Spencer is doing - begging for gibs-me-dat!
Take this to the bank: the "leadership" of the alt-right is shit. You're just mad that somebody pointed out the truth.
Why not me to do the better White movement -> ok: why not you...
DeleteAnd that may serve as more than a quip... and I asked that here various times: if it is - evidenced by the ample criticism here - so obvious what the weaknesses of the present forms of WN are, why is then there not a better form.... as it´s apparently quite clear what has to be done in a better manner?
That is to say something like: as long as we don´t have something better, it´s good to at least have what we´ve got. Here´s the thought-experiment: would the situation be better without Spencer or with Spencer -> my answer is the latter. And here is where I feel ingratitude from the critics, I´m missing respect for the work of the present WN. For me, that´s unbalanced and inappropriate of the activities of Spencer.
And for the record... leadership.... !!?... that´s a term that... kind-of comes maybe 20th in my thinking, like among the least relevant. The case for WN is self-evident, all we need is to present our position... I don´t see where "leadership" is needed as it´s a very simple case.
So, if there is something constructive in this exchange, it would be for me: why does not arise in the USA a form of WN that... well e.g. that finds your appreciation... or, that is very civil, very middle-class friendly... like the good old civil rights movement but for Whites... something like that. I would... and be it only for the sake of avoiding boredom... like to hear what people think why that is. Why do I not do it? There are reasons. Why do you not do it? What are the reasons?
And: if the US can´t have "better" WN (e.g. because it´s not Europeans with established national coherence): is then the present WN... : better than nothing ?
Richard Spencer finished off "Don't punch right."
ReplyDeleteStage 1) Assert your status in the hierarchy of a disparate intellectual movement by attacking people more moderate than you, ideally causing some of them to leave.
ReplyDeleteStage 2) Assert your status in the hierarchy of a rather less disparate intellectual movement by attacking people more extreme than you, ideally causing some of them to leave.
Stage 3) Assert your status in the hierarchy of a now not very disparate at all intellectual movement by attacking people you don't really disagree with that much, but have tactical differences than you and are to blame for the rapidly shrinking size of your movement.
Stage 4) Assert your status by gathering some people who are left and forming your own MUCH BETTER intellectual movement where you are king.
It's a pretty hilarious demonstration of evolutionary psychology in action.
Your idiotic response to this fairly incisive critique of Spencer is based on the idea that there is some sort of Alt-Right hierarchy. Let me assure you there is no such hierarchy. Also the Alt-Right is not a source of status. It is quite demonstrably a source of the very opposite of status.
DeletePlease be sure to examine your basic premises next time you try to signal as "intellectual."
Richard Spencer risks his life everyday. Maybe we do need something new but we can show some respect to the people who have risked so much.
ReplyDeleteWe all hope Richard keeps safe, but I also remember how Millennial Woes was forced to leave Scotland in fear of his life after his inadvertent appearance at Spencer's Heilgate conference brought him unwelcome attention in his homeland.
DeleteAlso, Charlottesville could have turned out a lot worse for many people. In my opinion, some of the violence directed at Unite the Right attendees can be laid at Spencer's door, although, of course, the hysterical left is mainly to blame.
I understand what you are saying but I think that we have to view criticism in light of the fact that nothing seems to work and that Spencer was a victim of Charlottesville. Legally he did nothing wrong.
Deleteto me this just doesn't get what the altright is. It isn't a movement that has the probability of gaining power in the near future. That, more than anything else, is what needs to be understood. I repeat, the altright does not have the probability of gaining power in the near future. With that understanding, we can now have a realistic and clear notion of what the altright is. It is ethnonationalism for all peoples, and in our case, for white people. You simply cannot bang on about what a failure Spencer is because the vast swathes of normies are not committed and open ethnonationalists, right now. The altright, properly understood, is a movement which lays the groundwork for ethnonationalism - in the next century.
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