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| Long March or Pool Party, pls choose. |
The latest split in the Alt-Right is generating a clash of visions between, on the one hand, The Right Stuff (TRS) and the Daily Stormer (DS), and, on the other hand, the Traditionalist Workers Party (TWP) and their allies. (Note: Richard Spencer was recently closely associated with the TWP at his partially successful speaking event at Michigan State University, where TWP stalwarts faced off against violent and criminal Leftists.)
While the TWP and Spencer are focused on Charlottesville-style street action and serious speaking events, facing off against antifa, bad cops, and snotty universities—a policy guaranteed to generate headlines in the MSM—the TRS/DS camp is focused on securing "safe spaces" to have private parties and make funny internet content, laced with K-word and N-word profanties that allow corporations to deplatform them with ease and a clear conscience.
TWP and Spencer's vision has affinities with Chairman Mao's Long March—namely an arduous, physically demanding, sometimes paramilitary operation that, it is hoped, will build the Alt-Right through struggle and take it to a point from where it can conquer. It is essentially Nietzschean in outlook and represents Spencer and TRS leader Matthew Heimabach's philosophical underpinnings. A Spenglerian would note its "Faustian" characteristics.
The TRS/DS vision, by contrast, has more of the "Last Man"—Nietzsche's critique of bourgeoise materialism—about it, with a concomitant emphasis on "safe spaces," sub-bacchanalian sensualism, and emotional and linguistic incontinence. A Spenglerian might say that it has "Magian"—and therefore "Semitic"—characteristics, signalled by its affinity with concepts like "White Sharia" and its invocation of the "Cavern," coven, congregation, or even ghetto as its prefered mode of existence.
In recent days, several posts have illustrated this deepening philosophical schism. Matt Parrott, the intellectual éminence grise of the TWP highlighted the downsides of TRS/DS's approach in an article, "Style and Substance," published at the TWP website:
Essentially this is a vision of a cozy ghetto of claustrophobically-connected insiders, cut off and separated from the outside world, wallowing in their toxic tribal antipathy to the wider world. Obviously this would be a group in which cult dynamics would soon start to dominate, and it would probably end up keeping any members who wished to gravitate back to "normieworld" by sheer blackmail.
The other approach, the TWP approach, is also also essentially a colourful dead-end—at least as long as an unwieldy mass of globalists, civic nationalists, and technocrats—keep the global economy ticking over.
The TWP approach is clearly more noble, but it raises the social and professional costs of being in the Alt-Right even higher than the TRS/DS model. Here too, thanks to the high level of commitment required, we can expect to see cult dynamics also take a hold, if they haven't already.
Both factions, in my opinion, represent dead ends, and merely serve to toxify the basic message of the Alt-Right, which is—to remind everyone blinded by the drama—the clear expression of objective truths to a wide audience. Both factions also represent visions that have been rejected everywhere in Europe by successful identitarian movements, showing the usual insularity and tunnel vision of Americans.
No wonder everyone involved thinks everyone else is a Fed.
While the TWP and Spencer are focused on Charlottesville-style street action and serious speaking events, facing off against antifa, bad cops, and snotty universities—a policy guaranteed to generate headlines in the MSM—the TRS/DS camp is focused on securing "safe spaces" to have private parties and make funny internet content, laced with K-word and N-word profanties that allow corporations to deplatform them with ease and a clear conscience.
TWP and Spencer's vision has affinities with Chairman Mao's Long March—namely an arduous, physically demanding, sometimes paramilitary operation that, it is hoped, will build the Alt-Right through struggle and take it to a point from where it can conquer. It is essentially Nietzschean in outlook and represents Spencer and TRS leader Matthew Heimabach's philosophical underpinnings. A Spenglerian would note its "Faustian" characteristics.
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| Parrott, ready for action. |
In recent days, several posts have illustrated this deepening philosophical schism. Matt Parrott, the intellectual éminence grise of the TWP highlighted the downsides of TRS/DS's approach in an article, "Style and Substance," published at the TWP website:
"The truth is our greatest weapon, and doubling down on the truth with courage and focus is our greatest strategy. I understand and respect that there’s progress to be made in lurking in the gray area of anonymity, irony, and plausibly deniable performance art. I’m not hostile to or opposed to that work. It greases the skids, jamming the culture, and shifting the Overton Window. But as we all learned in Charlottesville, when you’ve got pepper spray in your eyes, the acrid taste of your own blood and snot in your mouth, and a nightmare swarm of trannies coming at you with rocks and bats, the serious and revolutionary nature of this struggle comes into full relief.This approach had been mocked earlier by Andrew Anglin in a post that found its way onto the TRS forum:
Our enemies are fighting for our genocide. And the greatest threat to our survival isn’t the trannies themselves, but the individualist American consumer culture which is lulling our people into a trance as the enemies gradually encroach.The majority of our movement aren’t ready to actually struggle and sacrifice for the coming nation, which is why they ghosted after Charlottesville. Not everybody is in a situation where they can be on the front lines, but the evaporation of support for the men on the front lines is damning. We are a movement where the leadership consensus is that we need to stop struggling for what we stand for, and that’s ridiculous."
It's a question of whether or not [TWP] deserve respect, and I don't think they do. They are purposely making a mockery of this movement, of everything that I am (sic) others built. It has been years that I have made respectful suggestions to these people, both personally and privately, and they have simply attacked me for it. They know that everyone hates their shit, they know that it doesn't appeal to their target demographic - or anyone else - and they know their only shot at relevance is to attach themselves to people like Spenser (sic) and TRS. It is a totally callous, calculated move to try and achieve relevance. And no, I simply do not find that respectable at all. I think it's fucking disgusting.
They do not believe they are going to win anything. This is purely about Heimbach parading around attention whoring, like a fat kid who eats worms at recess so everyone comes and stares at him. Attaching that kind of poisonous shit to a legitimate political movement is just fucked.
In the latest devlopment, TRS's Jesse Dunstan (sock name Seventh Son) has published a "mini manifesto" in the TRS forum, titled "Dad's Manifesto: Post Mania Manic Ramblings."
In this, he outlines his vision of a culture of meet-ups built round an alternative mini-media empire founded on extreme profanity and lulz, without much engagement with the outside world. This is basically "pool-party tribalism," that a visiting anthropologist could study for weeks without understanding exactly how it works. The article presents a vision of the Alt-Right as a cross between Club 18 to 30 and a Leper Colony:
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| Jesse Dunstan being (((ironic))) as usual. |
"I want the feel I felt among all my brodies at this weekend's event with all of you. I want to expand our operation as a Meatspace Network of Special Friends and Associates. I want to spend a lot of time and effort vetting as many of you as possible so we can confidently have events like TRStlemania more often and with more participants.To those unfamilair with all the ins-and-outs of the Alt-Right, it may not be obvious what Dunstan is proposing here in this long, rambling screed. Even with the "snip" edits and bold text, it may still be confusing for some, so let me spell it out.
TRStlemania II was successful because most everyone didn't know about it. It was successful because no one who wasn't personally known on a 3D basis to at least 3 other attendees was invited. It was successful because TRS feels zero need to inform the media that we're about to do something cool for the cause. We did it and we acted as the alternative media we are and presented the report of the event to you when it was over [snip]
It's not about "optics," it's not about uniforms, helmets, polo shirts, torches, banner drops, flags or monuments. I question the very concept of "activism" in the real world in and of itself. I see no benefit to it, never saw any benefit to it, and I don't foresee anything about that changing...in the bigger picture, fighting with Antifa is an energy siphon GloboHomo set up to entrap us and waste our time [snip]
I did not get into this because I had a dream of "leading" a protest movement. I have a vision of solving another problem entirely. I want to replace the jewry that runs news and entertainment media. I want to be what the other controlled op Alt-Media guys profess to be. I want TRS.BIZ to be a megaphone for us, as well as a reliable source of info for us. I want TRS.BIZ to replace the shitty Zog Movies we put up with. [snip]
Imagine an outlet serving content NOT FROM A 3RD PARTY F** PLATFORM WITH "COMMUNITY GUIDELINES" but from our own infrastructure. Imagine Murdoch Murdoch, Radical Agenda, America First, Nationalist Review, Fash The Nation, TALES FROM THE TROUGH, and whatever non-news creative content we can come up with being served up right here FOR US, BY US, WITHOUT SUPERJEWCHAT FUNDING THE K***S THAT HATE US, WITHOUT AD DEALS WITH COMPANIES THAT ADVERTISE FOR LITERAL WHITE GENOCIDE ALONG WITH THEIR SHIT PRODUCTS."
Essentially this is a vision of a cozy ghetto of claustrophobically-connected insiders, cut off and separated from the outside world, wallowing in their toxic tribal antipathy to the wider world. Obviously this would be a group in which cult dynamics would soon start to dominate, and it would probably end up keeping any members who wished to gravitate back to "normieworld" by sheer blackmail.
The other approach, the TWP approach, is also also essentially a colourful dead-end—at least as long as an unwieldy mass of globalists, civic nationalists, and technocrats—keep the global economy ticking over.
The TWP approach is clearly more noble, but it raises the social and professional costs of being in the Alt-Right even higher than the TRS/DS model. Here too, thanks to the high level of commitment required, we can expect to see cult dynamics also take a hold, if they haven't already.
Both factions, in my opinion, represent dead ends, and merely serve to toxify the basic message of the Alt-Right, which is—to remind everyone blinded by the drama—the clear expression of objective truths to a wide audience. Both factions also represent visions that have been rejected everywhere in Europe by successful identitarian movements, showing the usual insularity and tunnel vision of Americans.
No wonder everyone involved thinks everyone else is a Fed.
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| Intellectual heavyweights of a sinking movement? |



